Derivatives (Details 2) (Cash Flow Hedges [Member], Designated as Hedging Instrument [Member], USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified	3 Months Ended
	Feb. 04, 2012	Jan. 29, 2011
Cash Flow Hedges [Member] | Designated as Hedging Instrument [Member]
Effect of derivative instruments designated as cash flow hedges
Loss recognized in OCI on derivatives (net of tax of $1,123 in 2012 and $346 in 2011)	$ (7,771)	$ (2,611)
Loss (Gain) reclassified from OCI into income (net of tax of $294 in 2012 and $55 in 2011)	$ 2,030	$ (412)