Retirement Plans (Details 2) (USD $) In Thousands	Oct. 29, 2011	Oct. 30, 2010
Plans with projected benefit obligations in excess of plan assets:
Projected benefit obligation	$ 180,182	$ 188,741
Fair value of plan assets	151,281	145,789
Plans with accumulated benefit obligations in excess of plan assets:
Projected benefit obligation	25,236	23,278
Accumulated benefit obligation	21,022	19,360
Fair value of plan assets	$ 635	$ 602

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