Pension Plans (Details) (USD $)	3 Months Ended		9 Months Ended
	Aug. 03, 2013	Aug. 04, 2012	Aug. 03, 2013	Aug. 04, 2012
Net periodic pension cost
Service cost	$ 2,796,000	$ 1,938,000	$ 8,472,000	$ 5,926,000
Interest cost	3,100,000	2,648,000	9,351,000	8,185,000
Expected return on plan assets	(2,911,000)	(2,547,000)	(8,787,000)	(7,857,000)
Amortization of initial net obligation	5,000	5,000	15,000	15,000
Amortization of prior service cost	(59,000)	0	(175,000)	0
Amortization of net loss	744,000	89,000	2,235,000	269,000
Net periodic pension cost	3,675,000	2,133,000	11,111,000	6,538,000
Pension Plans (Textual) [Abstract]
Pension contributions	4,400,000		13,100,000
Additional contribution to defined benefit pension plans			4,000,000
Total contribution to defined benefit pension plans for entire current fiscal year			$ 17,100,000