Pension Plans (Details) (USD $)	3 Months Ended
	Feb. 02, 2013	Feb. 04, 2012
Net periodic pension cost
Service cost	$ 2,856,000	$ 1,991,000
Interest cost	3,137,000	2,764,000
Expected return on plan assets	(2,952,000)	(2,649,000)
Amortization of initial net obligation	5,000	5,000
Amortization of prior service cost	(58,000)	0
Amortization of net loss	748,000	89,000
Net periodic pension cost	3,736,000	2,200,000
Pension Plans (Textual) [Abstract]
Pension contributions	4,400,000
Additional contribution to defined benefit pension plans	12,800,000
Total contribution to defined benefit pension plans for entire current fiscal year	$ 17,200,000