Retirement Plans Projected Benefit Payments from Plans (Details) (USD $) In Millions, unless otherwise specified	Sep. 30, 2013
Pension Benefits
Defined Benefit Plans and Other Postretirement Benefit Plans Table Text Block [Line Items]
2014	$ 265
2015	262
2016	268
2017	269
2018	275
2019-2023	1,456
Postretirement Benefits
Defined Benefit Plans and Other Postretirement Benefit Plans Table Text Block [Line Items]
2014	21
2015	21
2016	22
2017	23
2018	23
2019-2023	$ 102

Amount of benefits expected to be paid in the five fiscal years after the fifth fiscal year following the latest fiscal year from a defined benefit plan.

Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef

-Publisher FASB

-Name Accounting Standards Codification

-Topic 715

-SubTopic 20

-Section 50

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Amount of benefits expected to be paid in the next fiscal year following the latest fiscal year from a defined benefit plan.

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