Bank segment - Contingencies (Details) - USD ($) $ in Millions	Sep. 30, 2023	Dec. 31, 2022
American Savings Bank (ASB)
Loss Contingencies [Line Items]
Unfunded commitments to fund the company's LIHTC	$ 77.1	$ 70.1

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