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Commitments Rent exepense (Details) (USD $)
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2011
Oct. 01, 2010
Oct. 02, 2009
Component of Other Expense, Nonoperating [Line Items]   
Operating Leases, Rent Expense$ 7,600,000$ 7,600,000$ 8,000,000
Operating Leases, Future Minimum Payments Due [Abstract]   
20128,247,000  
20137,149,000  
20146,671,000  
20155,896,000  
20163,883,000  
Thereafter5,942,000  
Operating Leases, Future Minimum Payments Due37,788,000  
Other commitments due in one year3,400,000  
Other commitments due in two yeara$ 1,800,000