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Retirement Plans Fair Value Inputs, Assets, Quantitative Information (Details) (Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 [Member], Fair Value, Measurements, Recurring [Member])
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2013
Sep. 30, 2012
Private Equity Funds [Member] | Minimum [Member] | Discounted Cash Flow [Member]
   
Fair Value Inputs, Assets, Quantitative Information [Line Items]    
Fair Value Inputs, Weighted Average Cost of Capital 8.80% 7.30%
Fair Value Inputs, Residual Growth Rate 1.00% 1.50%
Fair Value Inputs, Long-term Revenue Growth Rate 2.20% 1.60%
Private Equity Funds [Member] | Minimum [Member] | Market Comparable Companies [Member]
   
Fair Value Inputs, Assets, Quantitative Information [Line Items]    
Fair Value Inputs, Earnings before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation, and Amortization Multiple 7.0 4.8
Private Equity Funds [Member] | Maximum [Member] | Discounted Cash Flow [Member]
   
Fair Value Inputs, Assets, Quantitative Information [Line Items]    
Fair Value Inputs, Weighted Average Cost of Capital 16.10% 20.00%
Fair Value Inputs, Residual Growth Rate 4.00% 4.00%
Fair Value Inputs, Long-term Revenue Growth Rate 6.60% 9.10%
Private Equity Funds [Member] | Maximum [Member] | Market Comparable Companies [Member]
   
Fair Value Inputs, Assets, Quantitative Information [Line Items]    
Fair Value Inputs, Earnings before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation, and Amortization Multiple 13.2 14.5
Real Estate Funds [Member] | Minimum [Member] | Discounted Cash Flow [Member]
   
Fair Value Inputs, Assets, Quantitative Information [Line Items]    
Fair Value Inputs, Rental Rate Factor 0.00% 0.00%
Fair Value Inputs, Capitalization Rates 5.00% 5.00%
Fair Value Inputs, Discount Rate 7.00% 7.00%
Fair Value Inputs, Inflation Rate 0.00% 0.00%
Real Estate Funds [Member] | Maximum [Member] | Discounted Cash Flow [Member]
   
Fair Value Inputs, Assets, Quantitative Information [Line Items]    
Fair Value Inputs, Rental Rate Factor 25.00% 25.00%
Fair Value Inputs, Capitalization Rates 8.00% 8.00%
Fair Value Inputs, Discount Rate 9.00% 9.00%
Fair Value Inputs, Inflation Rate 5.00% 5.00%