2. Basis of Presentation and Significant Accounting Policies: Net Loss Per Share Information: Schedule of Earnings per share basic and diluted (Details) - shares	3 Months Ended		6 Months Ended
	Apr. 30, 2019	Apr. 30, 2018	Apr. 30, 2019	Apr. 30, 2018
Details
Weighted average number of common shares outstanding - basic	7,696,091	7,696,091	7,696,091	7,696,091
Effect of dilutive stock options	0	0	0	0
Weighted average number of common shares outstanding - diluted	7,696,091	7,696,091	7,696,091	7,696,091
Antidilutive Securities Excluded from Computation of Earnings Per Share, Amount	1,734,500	1,606,500	1,734,500	1,606,500