2. Basis of Presentation and Significant Accounting Policies: Stock-based Compensation (Details) (USD $)	3 Months Ended	9 Months Ended
Jul. 31, 2013	Jul. 31, 2012	Jul. 31, 2013	Jul. 31, 2012
Details
Allocated Share-based Compensation Expense	$ 62,000	$ 202,000	$ 73,000	$ 181,000

Represents the expense recognized during the period arising from equity-based compensation arrangements (for example, shares of stock, unit, stock options or other equity instruments) with employees, directors and certain consultants qualifying for treatment as employees.

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