CORRESP 1 filename1.htm Correspondence

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September 3, 2014                    

VIA EDGAR

U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission

100 F Street, N.E.

Washington, D.C. 20549

 

Attention:   

Ms. Mara L. Ransom, Assistant Director

Ms. Jennifer Thompson, Accounting Branch Chief

Mr. Dietrich King, Legal Branch Chief

Ms. Lisa Kohl, Senior Attorney

Mr. Jarrett Torno, Staff Accountant

Re:       

Alibaba Group Holding Limited

Amendment No. 5 to Registration Statement on Form F-1

File No. 333-195736

Ladies and Gentlemen:

Further to telephone discussions between members of Simpson Thacher & Bartlett and members of the staff of the Securities and Exchange Commission (the “Staff”), we submit this letter on behalf of our client, Alibaba Group Holding Limited (the “Company”), to provide for your review, on a pre-filing supplemental basis, the Company’s proposed response to comment 4 contained in the letter dated August 29, 2014 (the “August 29 Comment Letter”) from the Staff, as set forth below.

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Leiming Chen    Philip M.J. Culhane    Daniel Fertig     Anthony D. King     Celia C.L. Lam    Chris K.H. Lin    Jin Hyuk Park     Kathryn King Sudol     Christopher K.S. Wong    

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Components of Results of Operations, page 98

 

4. We note your description of the types of expenses classified as Cost of Revenue and as Sales and Marketing Expenses. After reviewing the additional information you filed as correspondence on August 22, 2014 that is related to this matter, we understand that costs related to online marketing appearing on third party marketing affiliates’ websites are allocated between costs related to marketing performed for individual merchants and costs related to marketing for your online marketplaces, and that each type of cost is classified differently. We have the following comments:

 

    Revise your disclosure to quantify the amount of traffic acquisition costs that are included in Sales and Marketing Expenses for each period presented.

We believe the Staff may be under the impression that the Company classifies a significant portion of traffic acquisition costs, or TAC, under sales and marketing expense. This is not the case as the Company will discuss in more detail in this response. The Company respectfully advises the Staff that costs related to online marketing appearing on third party marketing affiliates’ websites are separately identified, differentiated and recorded as traffic acquisition costs, or TAC, in cost of revenue or as online advertising expenses in sales and marketing expenses. Traffic acquisition costs represent costs incurred to acquire traffic from third-party marketing affiliates which is used by the Company to fulfill its obligations related to its customers’ online marketing needs. Except for the case noted below, costs incurred for our own online advertising expenses are contracted for and tracked separately to allow for the appropriate income statement classification. Online advertising expenses represent expenses the Company has itself incurred for its marketing and promotion of its own services, sites and special events. The Company refers the Staff to the table in the response to the immediately following sub-bullet point that explains these differentiating factors in detail.

The Company supplementally notes that, during the periods covered by the financial statements in the Registration Statement, there have been only two instances where fixed cost contracts normally used for the third-party marketing affiliate program were leveraged by the marketing departments of Taobao Marketplace, Tmall or Juhuasuan for their own sales and marketing activities, and as such required an allocation of the fixed costs between TAC and online advertising expense. These two instances resulted in online advertising expense under sales and marketing expenses of approximately RMB22 million (approximately US$4 million) in fiscal year 2014. Both instances were isolated cases in that the marketing department leveraged inventory normally reserved for the third-party marketing affiliate program in order to promote a special event of the Company, such as Singles’ Day. All other online advertising costs during the relevant periods were the result of direct advertising activities carried out by the marketing departments of the relevant marketplaces, and there have been no other instances of amounts paid to third-party affiliates under fixed costs arrangements being classified under sales and marketing expense. Based on this set of facts, the Company respectfully submits that separate disclosure of the TAC reclassified as sales and marketing expense from fiscal year 2014 is unnecessary as the amount was immaterial and exceptional, and the Company expects that such instances will be rare and immaterial in the future.


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In light of the Staff’s comment, the Company has revised pages [113], [118] and [123] to disclose the Company’s own online advertising costs that fall within sales and marketing expense, which amounted to RMB201 million, RMB367 million, and RMB532 million (US$86 million) and RMB184 million (US$30 million) in fiscal years 2012, 2013 and 2014 and for the three months ended June 30, 2014, respectively. To avoid confusion, the term “online advertising expense” is used when referring to expenses the Company itself incurs in marketing its own products and services as opposed to online marketing costs, or traffic acquisition costs, related to its merchants.

 

    Tell us in more detail how you distinguish between the costs related to online marketing on third party websites for individual merchants and the costs related to marketing your online marketplaces to determine the amount that you classify as Cost of Revenue as opposed to Sales and Marketing Expenses.

The Company advises the Staff that the classification and recording of traffic acquisition costs that are a part of the Company’s cost of revenues, on the one hand, and online advertising expenses that are a part of the Company’s sales and marketing expenses, on the other hand, can be clearly identified and accounted for based on various differentiating factors set forth in the following table:

 

     

Traffic acquisition cost

(a component of Cost of

Revenues)

  

Online Advertising Expense

(a component of Sales and

Marketing Expenses)

Business purposes    To fulfill its obligations related to its merchants’ marketing needs by placing online marketing services outside the Company’s marketplaces to attract traffic   

To fulfill corporate marketing initiatives for the benefit of the Company’s services, websites or general branding as well as increase consumer awareness of the Company’s marketplaces

 

Type of marketing content   

Merchant’s marketing content relating to its products being sold on its storefronts on the Company’s marketplaces

 

   Company’s own marketing content about its services, websites or other marketing events
Correlation with revenue   

Correlation is high through online marketing services offered to the Company’s merchants

 

  

There is no correlation between online advertising expense and revenue

 

Responsible business unit   

Alimama, which operates the marketing technology platform and maintains the third-party marketing affiliate program with the goal of monetizing all traffic

 

 

 

Different set of contracts used by Alimama for the third-party marketing affiliate program representing online marketing services provided to merchants

  

Marketing departments of various marketplaces, based on the Company’s discretion, to promote business objectives such as corporate marketing or promotion of the Company’s services

 

Separate contracts entered into with external websites by the marketing departments of the relevant marketplaces and used to promote and market the Company’s own services and marketplaces

Landing page    A landing page with product listings which are monetized through P4P or display marketing services offered to the Company’s merchants    Depending on the objectives of marketing and promotions, in nearly every case, the traffic is diverted to special promotion landing pages that do not comprise product listings with monetized online marketing services
External websites on which marketing content is displayed    Third-party marketing affiliates, (i.e. Taobao Affiliate Network participants)    Any external websites, including, but not limited to, third-party marketing affiliates


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Finally, the Company respectfully notes that, for the presentation of its operating results, the Company does not separately present gross margin for the revenue it earns, but focuses on its overall operating margin, and considers all of these different types of expenses as the necessary costs to generate its revenue.

 

    Tell us in more detail how you concluded that the costs of online marketing for your marketplaces are not traffic acquisition costs that would be classified as Cost of Revenue. In this regard, if an end user clicks on an ad for your marketplaces that was placed on a third party website, is transferred to your website, and views a landing page containing display ads which generate revenue for you, it appears that the direct cost incurred to receive that display marketing revenue was the cost of placing the ad on the third party’s website. If traffic is only diverted to web pages that do not contain display marketing, clearly state that in your response.

The Company refers the Staff to the first part of the response to this comment and to the factors described in the table above for additional details. In particular, the Company would emphasize that, while costs incurred in offering online marketing services to its merchants correlates highly with revenue, the Company’s own online advertising activities used to promote its own services, its marketplaces and its ecosystem generally do not correlate with the revenue generated. Based on marketing initiatives pursued at its discretion and conducted by the marketing departments of the relevant marketplace, the Company places online advertising on other sites to attract traffic to its marketplaces and to encourage users to shop on its websites or to promote particular special events or services, such as Singles’ Day or mobile interface, but it cannot be said that traffic attracted to the Company’s websites through such advertising is a cost incurred to generate revenue just because the page that the user visits happens to contain display marketing. The Company believes this is no different than costs related to offline promotional or advertising activities, such as billboards or other advertising, that are intended to lead Internet users to visit the homepage of Taobao Marketplace, which includes display marketing. Such offline advertising would not be categorized as traffic acquisition cost, and the Company respectfully maintains that the same is true for the online advertising activities for its marketplaces. That is, the primary purpose of purchasing such advertising is to cause users to come to the Company’s websites to use the services and online shopping options offered by such websites. Thus, the Company classifies such expenses as sales and marketing expense.


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As described above, there have been only two instances where, in order to take extra efforts to promote certain special events of the Company, the marketing departments leveraged the fixed costs contracts entered into by Alimama under the third-party marketing affiliate program. However, because such activities were conducted to promote the Company’s brand, sites and events, they were properly a part of the Company’s own marketing activities, the expenses so incurred were properly classified under sales and marketing expense. These two exceptional instances both occurred in fiscal year 2014 in connection with the promotion of special events. The marketing inventory of Alimama is not normally available for use by the Company’s marketing departments, and the Company does not expect such instances to be common or material and that it will be able to clearly identify such activities as sales and marketing.

In addition, in nearly every case, traffic from the Company’s online advertising is diverted to special promotional landing pages that do not comprise product listings with monetized online marketing services.

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If you have any question regarding this letter or enclosures, please do not hesitate to contact me at +(852) 2514-7630 (work) or lchen@stblaw.com (email) or William H. Hinman at (650) 251-5120 (work) or whinman@stblaw.com (email) or Daniel Fertig at +(852) 2514-7660 (work) or dfertig@stblaw.com (email).

Questions pertaining to accounting may also be directed to Benson Wong at +(852) 2289-1304 (work) or benson.wb.wong@hk.pwc.com (email) or Ricky Shin at +(852) 2289-1356 (work) or ricky.w.shin@hk.pwc.com (email), both of PricewaterhouseCoopers, the independent registered public accounting firm of the Company.

 

Very truly yours,
/s/ Leiming Chen
Leiming Chen

Enclosures

 

cc: Joseph C. Tsai, Executive Vice-chairman
   Jonathan Zhaoxi Lu, Chief Executive Officer
   Maggie Wei Wu, Chief Financial Officer
   Timothy A. Steinert, General Counsel

       Alibaba Group Holding Limited  

William H. Hinman, Jr.

Daniel Fertig

      Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP

William Y. Chua

Jay Clayton

Sarah P. Payne

      Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

Benson W.B. Wong

Ricky W. Shin

      PricewaterhouseCoopers


Appendix A to the letter to the SEC dated September 3, 2014

[Attached]


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