Management, performance and founders fees (Tables)

3 Months Ended

Mar. 31, 2014

Management, Performance and Founders Fees [Abstract]

Schedule of investment fee expenses

Investment fee expenses related to the Investment Agreement, which are included in net investment income in the condensed consolidated statements of income for the three months ended March 31, 2014 and 2013 are as follows:

		2014		2013
	($ in thousands)
Management fees - Third Point LLC		$	1,189	$	724
Management fees - Founders		6,735		4,102
Performance fees - Third Point Advisors LLC		12,295		20,006
		$	20,219	$	24,832