Consolidated Statements of Comprehensive Income (Loss) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified	12 Months Ended
	Nov. 02, 2012	Oct. 28, 2011
Net income (loss)	$ 3,651	$ (443)
Defined benefit pension plans:
Actuarial loss unrecognized	(7,371)	(8,309)
Prior service cost	1	1
Other benefit		(4)
Other comprehensive loss from defined benefit plans	(7,370)	(8,312)
Other postretirement benefit plans:
Actuarial loss	(753)	(405)
Prior service cost	99	42
Other comprehensive loss from other postretirement benefit plans	(654)	(363)
Other comprehensive loss, before taxes	(8,024)	(8,675)
Tax benefit on other comprehensive loss	3,049	3,295
Valuation allowance on tax benefit from items of other comprehensive income	(3,049)	(3,295)
Change in other comprehensive loss, net of tax	(8,024)	(8,675)
Comprehensive loss	$ (4,373)	$ (9,118)