Note 8 - Stock-based Awards: Share-based Compensation, Stock Options, Activity (Details) - $ / shares	3 Months Ended
Dec. 31, 2019	Dec. 31, 2018	Sep. 30, 2019
Details
Weighted Average Exercise Price, Outstanding	$ 0.17		$ 0.26
Weighted Average Exercise Price, Granted	0.08	$ 0.10
Weighted Average Exercise Price, Expired	$ (0.48)	$ (0.10)

The weighted-average price as of the balance sheet date at which grantees can acquire the shares reserved for issuance on vested portions of options outstanding and currently exercisable under the stock option plan.

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