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    <documentType>4</documentType>
    <periodOfReport>2003-11-03</periodOfReport>
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    <issuer>
        <issuerCik>0000713676</issuerCik>
        <issuerName>PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC</issuerName>
        <issuerTradingSymbol>PNC</issuerTradingSymbol>
    </issuer>

    <reportingOwner>
        <reportingOwnerId>
            <rptOwnerCik>0001194841</rptOwnerCik>
            <rptOwnerName>GUYAUX JOSEPH C</rptOwnerName>
        </reportingOwnerId>
        <reportingOwnerAddress>
            <rptOwnerStreet1>THE PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP, INC.</rptOwnerStreet1>
            <rptOwnerStreet2>ONE PNC PLAZA</rptOwnerStreet2>
            <rptOwnerCity>PITTSBURGH,</rptOwnerCity>
            <rptOwnerState>PA</rptOwnerState>
            <rptOwnerZipCode>15222-2707</rptOwnerZipCode>
            <rptOwnerStateDescription></rptOwnerStateDescription>
        </reportingOwnerAddress>
            <reportingOwnerRelationship>
            <isDirector>0</isDirector>
            <isOfficer>1</isOfficer>
            <isTenPercentOwner>0</isTenPercentOwner>
            <isOther>0</isOther>
            <officerTitle>President</officerTitle>
        </reportingOwnerRelationship>
    </reportingOwner>
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      <securityTitle>
          <value>$5 Par Common Stock</value>
      </securityTitle>
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          <value>$5 Par Common Stock</value>
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          <value>$5 Par Common Stock</value>
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          <value>$5 Par Common Stock</value>
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          <value>$5 Par Common Stock</value>
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          <transactionPricePerShare>
              <value>50.87</value>
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          <transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
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              <value>428.00</value>
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          <directOrIndirectOwnership>
              <value>I</value>
          </directOrIndirectOwnership>
          <natureOfOwnership>
              <value>401(K)Plan</value>
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      <securityTitle>
          <value>Phantom Stock Unit</value>
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      <transactionDate>
          <value>2003-09-30</value>
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          <transactionFormType>5</transactionFormType>
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          <transactionPricePerShare>
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              <value>A</value>
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      <expirationDate>
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      <underlyingSecurity>
          <underlyingSecurityTitle>
              <value>$5 Par Common Stock</value>
          </underlyingSecurityTitle>
          <underlyingSecurityShares>
              <value>25.00</value>
          </underlyingSecurityShares>
      </underlyingSecurity>
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          <sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
              <value>1292.00</value>
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      <ownershipNature>
          <directOrIndirectOwnership>
              <value>I</value>
          </directOrIndirectOwnership>
          <natureOfOwnership>
              <value>Supplemental ISP</value>
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<footnotes>
   <footnote id="F1">Dividend Reinvestment Shares acquired.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F2">These shares were acquired during the fourth quarter of 2003 pursuant to the PNC Incentive Savings Plan.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F3">1 for 1.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F4">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under the PNC Supplemental Incentive Savings Plan.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F5">Phantom Stock Units will be settled in cash upon the reporting person's retirement or other termination of service and generally
do not expire.</footnote>
</footnotes>
<remarks></remarks>    <ownerSignature>
       <signatureName>Mark C. Joseph, Attorney-in-Fact for Joseph C. Guyaux</signatureName>
       <signatureDate>2003-11-03</signatureDate>
    </ownerSignature>
</ownershipDocument>

