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Employee benefits, Plan assets (Details) - Domestic Defined Benefit Plans [Member] - MXN ($)
$ in Thousands
12 Months Ended
Dec. 31, 2017
Dec. 31, 2016
Plan assets [Abstract]    
Balance at period start $ 164,207 $ 211,242
Plan contributions (9,272) (13,739)
Balance at period end 175,560 164,207
Plan Assets [Member]    
Plan assets [Abstract]    
Balance at period start 1,651 1,921
Expected return on assets 908 (294)
Plan contributions 9,272 13,739
Benefits paid (9,272) (13,739)
Interests of plan assets 140 24
Balance at period end $ 2,699 $ 1,651