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    <periodOfReport>2017-06-30</periodOfReport>

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    <issuer>
        <issuerCik>0001056288</issuerCik>
        <issuerName>FEDERATED INVESTORS INC /PA/</issuerName>
        <issuerTradingSymbol>FII</issuerTradingSymbol>
    </issuer>

    <reportingOwner>
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            <rptOwnerCik>0001061438</rptOwnerCik>
            <rptOwnerName>DONAHUE THOMAS R</rptOwnerName>
        </reportingOwnerId>
        <reportingOwnerAddress>
            <rptOwnerStreet1>1001 LIBERTY AVENUE</rptOwnerStreet1>
            <rptOwnerStreet2>FEDERATED INVESTORS, INC.</rptOwnerStreet2>
            <rptOwnerCity>PITTSBURGH</rptOwnerCity>
            <rptOwnerState>PA</rptOwnerState>
            <rptOwnerZipCode>15222-3779</rptOwnerZipCode>
            <rptOwnerStateDescription></rptOwnerStateDescription>
        </reportingOwnerAddress>
        <reportingOwnerRelationship>
            <isDirector>1</isDirector>
            <isOfficer>1</isOfficer>
            <isTenPercentOwner>0</isTenPercentOwner>
            <isOther>0</isOther>
            <officerTitle>VP, CFO &amp; Treasurer</officerTitle>
        </reportingOwnerRelationship>
    </reportingOwner>

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        <nonDerivativeTransaction>
            <securityTitle>
                <value>Class B Common Stock</value>
            </securityTitle>
            <transactionDate>
                <value>2017-06-30</value>
            </transactionDate>
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                <transactionFormType>4</transactionFormType>
                <transactionCode>J</transactionCode>
                <equitySwapInvolved>0</equitySwapInvolved>
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                <value></value>
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                <transactionShares>
                    <value>1573</value>
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                    <value>0</value>
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                <transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
                    <value>D</value>
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                <sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
                    <value>297972</value>
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                <directOrIndirectOwnership>
                    <value>I</value>
                </directOrIndirectOwnership>
                <natureOfOwnership>
                    <value>Held indirectly by The Beechwood Company, L.P.</value>
                </natureOfOwnership>
            </ownershipNature>
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        <nonDerivativeHolding>
            <securityTitle>
                <value>Class B Common Stock</value>
            </securityTitle>
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                <sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
                    <value>645544</value>
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                    <value>D</value>
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        <nonDerivativeHolding>
            <securityTitle>
                <value>Class B Common Stock</value>
            </securityTitle>
            <postTransactionAmounts>
                <sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
                    <value>655550</value>
                </sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
            </postTransactionAmounts>
            <ownershipNature>
                <directOrIndirectOwnership>
                    <value>I</value>
                </directOrIndirectOwnership>
                <natureOfOwnership>
                    <value>Held indirectly by MaxFund Partners, L.P.</value>
                </natureOfOwnership>
            </ownershipNature>
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        <nonDerivativeHolding>
            <securityTitle>
                <value>Class B Common Stock</value>
            </securityTitle>
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                <sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
                    <value>72</value>
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                <directOrIndirectOwnership>
                    <value>I</value>
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                <natureOfOwnership>
                    <value>Held indirectly by 401(k) Plan</value>
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        <nonDerivativeHolding>
            <securityTitle>
                <value>Class B Common Stock</value>
            </securityTitle>
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                <sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
                    <value>4409</value>
                </sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
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                <directOrIndirectOwnership>
                    <value>I</value>
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                <natureOfOwnership>
                    <value>Held indirectly by spouse</value>
                </natureOfOwnership>
            </ownershipNature>
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        <nonDerivativeHolding>
            <securityTitle>
                <value>Class B Common Stock</value>
            </securityTitle>
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                <sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
                    <value>82</value>
                </sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
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            <ownershipNature>
                <directOrIndirectOwnership>
                    <value>I</value>
                </directOrIndirectOwnership>
                <natureOfOwnership>
                    <value>Held indirectly by AWOL, Inc.</value>
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        </nonDerivativeHolding>
        <nonDerivativeHolding>
            <securityTitle>
                <value>Class B Common Stock</value>
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            <postTransactionAmounts>
                <sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
                    <value>37117</value>
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            <ownershipNature>
                <directOrIndirectOwnership>
                    <value>I</value>
                </directOrIndirectOwnership>
                <natureOfOwnership>
                    <value>Held indirectly by J. Christopher Donahue as Custodian for minor children</value>
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        <nonDerivativeHolding>
            <securityTitle>
                <value>Class B Common Stock</value>
            </securityTitle>
            <postTransactionAmounts>
                <sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
                    <value>37956</value>
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                <directOrIndirectOwnership>
                    <value>I</value>
                </directOrIndirectOwnership>
                <natureOfOwnership>
                    <value>Held indirectly by immediate family member</value>
                </natureOfOwnership>
            </ownershipNature>
        </nonDerivativeHolding>
    </nonDerivativeTable>

    <footnotes>
        <footnote id="F1">The described transaction did not involve any public sale of shares and was done for family governance purposes. On June 30, 2017, The Beechwood Company, L.P. (&quot;Beechwood&quot;) transferred shares of Federated Investors, Inc. Class B Common Stock to Richmond Farm, L.P. as part  of a support agreement. Beechmax, Inc. (&quot;Beechmax&quot;) is the sole general partner of Beechwood and the reporting person is a shareholder of Beechmax. The reporting person has a limited partnership interest in Beechwood.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F2">As a result of the transaction, the number of shares of Federated Investors, Inc. Class B Common Stock in which the reporting person has an indirect interest due to his limited partnership interest in Beechwood will decrease by the amount indicated in Box 4.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F3">The shares of Federated Investors, Inc. Class B Common Stock reported represent the reporting person's proportional beneficial interest (through his voting interest in the general partner) as shareholder of the general partner in shares of issuer securities held by Beechwood. The reporting person disclaims beneficial ownership of the Federated Investors, Inc. Class B Common Stock held by Beechwood except to the extent of his pecuniary interest therein.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F4">The reporting person no longer has a reportable beneficial interest in 152,178 shares of Federated Investors, Inc. Class B Common Stock owned by his son and included in the reporting person's prior ownership reports. The reporting person continues to have a reportable beneficial interest in 37,956  shares of Federated Investors, Inc. Class B Common Stock owned by his daughter.</footnote>
    </footnotes>

    <remarks>The Power of Attorney dated April 24, 2014 is incorporated herein by reference.</remarks>

    <ownerSignature>
        <signatureName>/s/John D. Martini  (Attorney-in-Fact)</signatureName>
        <signatureDate>2017-07-05</signatureDate>
    </ownerSignature>
</ownershipDocument>
