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UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20549
FORM 8-K
CURRENT REPORT
PURSUANT TO SECTION 13 OR 15(d) OF THE
SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934
Date of Report (Date of earliest event reported): November 10, 2006
HANOVER CAPITAL MORTGAGE HOLDINGS, INC.
(Exact name of Registrant as Specified in its Charter)
         
Maryland   001-13417   13-3950486
(State or Other Jurisdiction
 
(Commission
 
(IRS Employer
of Incorporation)   File Number)   Identification No.)
200 Metroplex Drive, Suite 100, Edison, New Jersey 08817
(Address of Principal Executive Offices)
Registrant’s telephone number, including area code (732) 548-0101
N/A
(Former Name or Former Address, if Changed Since Last Report)
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ITEM 2.02. RESULTS OF OPERATIONS AND FINANCIAL CONDITION
ITEM 8.01. OTHER EVENTS
ITEM 9.01. FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND EXHIBITS
SIGNATURE
INDEX TO EXHIBITS
Ex-99.1 Press Release, dated November 10, 2006
Ex-99.2 Transcript of November 10, 2006 Earnings Call


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SECTION 2 — FINANCIAL INFORMATION
ITEM 2.02. RESULTS OF OPERATIONS AND FINANCIAL CONDITION.
On November 10, 2006, the Company issued a press release announcing its financial results for the three and nine months ended September 30, 2006. A copy of the release is furnished as Exhibit 99.1 to this Current Report on Form 8-K.
The information furnished in this section of this Current Report on Form 8-K and in Exhibit 99.1 attached hereto, with respect to the Company’s results of operations only, shall not be deemed “filed” for the purposes of Section 18 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, nor shall it be deemed incorporated by reference in any filing under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, except as shall be expressly set forth by specific reference in such filing.
ITEM 8.01. OTHER EVENTS
At 11:00 AM ET on Friday, November 10, 2006, the Company held an investor conference call that was also broadcast live on the internet at www.investorcalendar.com . A copy of the transcript of the recorded live call is attached hereto as Exhibit 99.2.
SECTION 9 — FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND EXHIBITS
ITEM 9.01. FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND EXHIBITS.
          (c) Exhibits.
  99.1   Press Release, dated November 10, 2006.
 
  99.2   Transcript of November 10, 2006 Earnings Call.
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SIGNATURE
          Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, the Registrant has duly caused this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.
         
  HANOVER CAPITAL MORTGAGE HOLDINGS, INC.

 
Date: November 15, 2006  By:   /s/ Harold F. McElraft    
    Harold F. McElraft, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer  
 

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INDEX TO EXHIBITS
     
EXHIBIT NO.   DESCRIPTION
 
   
Exhibit 99.1
  Press Release, dated November 10, 2006.
 
   
Exhibit 99.2
  Transcript of November 10, 2006 Earnings Call

 

EX-99.1 2 b63098hcexv99w1.htm EX-99.1 PRESS RELEASE, DATED NOVEMBER 10, 2006 exv99w1
 

Exhibit 99.1
For further information, contact:
Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings, Inc.
John Burchett, CEO, Irma Tavares, COO, or Harold McElraft, CFO
732-593-1044
HANOVER CAPITAL MORTGAGE HOLDINGS ANNOUNCES
2006 THIRD-QUARTER RESULTS AND $0.15 PER SHARE DIVIDEND
          Edison, New Jersey, November 10, 2006 — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings, Inc. (AMEX: HCM) reported net income for the quarter ended September 30, 2006 of $0.1 million, or $0.01 per share on a fully diluted basis. The Board of Directors declared a third quarterly dividend of $0.15 per share on November 8, 2006 to be paid on December 8, 2006 to stockholders of record as of November 22, 2006.
For the three months ended September 30, 2006, the Company’s net income of $0.1 million was comparable to its net income for the corresponding quarter of 2005. The majority of the Company’s net income for the three months ended September 30, 2006 and 2005 was attributable to the parent company, a Real Estate Investment Trust “REIT.”
For the nine months ended September 30, 2006 and 2005, the majority of the Company’s net earnings was also attributable to the REIT. The net income for the 2006 nine-month period was $0.2 million, or $1.1 million lower than the net income of $1.3 million for the corresponding period of 2005. This decrease is primarily due to the lower operating income of the REIT and the Hanover Capital Partners (“HCP”) segment. The REIT’s decline in operating income was primarily a result of a reduction in gain on sale of mortgage assets, a writedown in the value of the Company’s real estate owned during 2006, and increased interest expense for the capital raised through the Company’s subsidiary trusts. This decline is partially offset by increased net interest income on its larger Subordinate Mortgage-Backed Securities “MBS” portfolio and $1.4 million of compensation expense recorded in June of 2005 for four of its executive officers pursuant to the 1997 contribution agreement, as amended, that was not incurred in 2006.
The Company’s primary investments in Subordinate MBS yielded 19.24% for the three months ended September 30, 2006 versus 20.26% for the corresponding quarter of 2005 due to an increase in the effective interest rate expense on this portfolio to 6.65% from 5.03% in 2005, which was partially offset by investment in higher yielding assets and an increased leverage ratio. The overall net interest income for this portfolio rose to $3.0 million from $1.5 million for the same periods, respectively. The credit performance on the Subordinate MBS continues to be good.
John A. Burchett, President and Chief Executive Officer, commented, “The dividend for the quarter was set at $0.15 per share, a reduction of $0.05 per share from the previous quarter. The dividend was set at the $0.15 level based on projected earnings, given today’s capital levels and the current interest rate environment. We continue to transition the Company’s primary activities to management and growth of residential related credit portfolios, primarily subordinated securities backed by prime residential mortgages. The attached tables show the result of that effort to date. Our capital invested in these securities has risen to $59.6 million at September 30, 2006 from $24.0 million as of September 30, 2005, an increase of 148%. Our return on equity on this portfolio remains high at 19.24% for the third quarter of 2006 compared to 20.26% for the third quarter of 2005. This relatively small decline in yield occurred in a time span when LIBOR rose from 3.86% to 5.32%.”
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“We continue the strategic review of our subsidiaries with a goal of simplifying the operations and balance sheet of the Company and narrowing the focus of management. We also continue our plan to increase the capital base of the Company in order to increase the investment in our primary asset.”
HCM will host an investor conference call on Friday, November 10, 2006 at 11:00 AM ET. The call will be broadcast on the Internet at www.investorcalendar.com. To listen to the call, please go to the Web site at least fifteen minutes prior to the call to register, download, and install any necessary audio software. For those not able to listen to the live broadcast, a replay will be available for a period of 30 days.
To access the live call by phone, dial 877-407-8035 (international callers dial 201-689-8035) several minutes before the call. A recorded replay may be heard through Tuesday, November 14 at 11:59 PM by dialing 877-660-6853 (international callers dial 201-612-7415) and using playback account #286 and conference ID # 219005.
Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings, Inc. is a mortgage REIT staffed by seasoned mortgage capital markets professionals. HCM invests in mortgage-backed securities and mortgage loans and engages in non-interest income-generating activities through its subsidiary, Hanover Capital Partners 2, Ltd., which operates two separate divisions, Hanover Capital Partners and HanoverTrade. Hanover Capital Partners provides consulting and outsourcing services to the mortgage industry. HanoverTrade provides technology solutions for the mortgage industry. For further information, visit HCM’s Web site at www.hanovercapitalholdings.com.
Certain statements in this press release may constitute “forward-looking” statements as defined in Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended. HCM is including this cautionary statement to make applicable and take advantage of the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Statements that are not historical fact are forward-looking statements. Such forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other important factors that could cause the actual results, performance or achievements, to differ materially from future results, performance or achievements. The forward-looking statements are based on HCM’s current belief, intentions and expectations. These statements are not guarantees or indicative of future performance. Important assumptions and other important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those forward-looking statements include, but are not limited to, those factors, risks and uncertainties that are described in Item 1A of HCM’s Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2005 and in other securities filings by HCM. HCM’s future financial condition and results of operations, as well as any forward-looking statements, are subject to change and inherent risks and uncertainties. The forward-looking statements contained in this press release are made only as of the date hereof and HCM undertakes no obligation to update or revise the information contained in this announcement whether as a result of new information, subsequent events or circumstances or otherwise, unless otherwise required by law.
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HANOVER CAPITAL MORTGAGE HOLDINGS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES
CONSOLIDATED BALANCE SHEETS
(in thousands, except share and per share data)
                 
    September 30,        
    2006     December 31,  
    (Unaudited)     2005  
Assets
               
Cash and cash equivalents
  $ 19,670     $ 30,495  
Receivable for securities sold
    561        
Accounts receivable
    1,665       2,606  
Accrued interest receivable
    1,613       1,382  
Mortgage loans
               
Held for sale
          10,061  
Collateral for CMOs
    11,125       14,074  
Mortgage securities ($250,572 and $188,398 pledged under Repurchase Agreements as of September 30, 2006 and December 31, 2005, respectively)
               
Trading
    107,673       82,487  
Available for sale
    146,226       106,967  
Held to maturity
    6,567       8,034  
Other subordinate security, held to maturity
    2,744       2,703  
Equity investments in unconsolidated affiliates
    1,372       1,289  
Other assets
    10,144       12,089  
 
           
 
               
 
  $ 309,360     $ 272,187  
 
           
 
               
Liabilities
               
Repurchase agreements
  $ 190,663     $ 154,268  
Collateralized mortgage obligations (CMOs)
    8,704       11,438  
Dividends payable
          2,124  
Accounts payable, accrued expenses and other liabilities
    5,473       3,498  
Liability to subsidiary trusts issuing preferred and capital securities
    41,239       41,239  
 
           
 
    246,079       212,567  
 
           
Contingencies
           
Minority interest in equity of consolidated affiliate
          189  
 
               
Stockholders’ Equity
               
Preferred stock: $0.01 par value, 10 million shares authorized, no shares issued and outstanding
           
Common stock: $0.01 par value, 90 million shares authorized, 8,263,562 and 8,496,162 shares issued and outstanding as of September 30, 2006 and December 31, 2005, respectively
    83       85  
Additional paid-in capital
    102,741       104,231  
Cumulative earnings
    11,864       11,625  
Cumulative distributions to stockholders
    (53,697 )     (50,362 )
Deferred stock-based compensation
          (205 )
Accumulated other comprehensive income (loss)
    2,290       (5,943 )
 
           
 
    63,281       59,431  
 
           
 
               
 
  $ 309,360     $ 272,187  
 
           
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HANOVER CAPITAL MORTGAGE HOLDINGS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES
CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF INCOME (LOSS)
(in thousands, except per share data)
(Unaudited)
                                 
    Three Months Ended     Nine Months Ended  
    September 30,     September 30,  
    2006     2005     2006     2005  
Revenues
                               
Interest income
  $ 6,631     $ 4,053     $ 17,510     $ 11,717  
Interest expense
    4,023       2,227       10,004       5,785  
 
                       
Net interest income before loan loss provision
    2,608       1,826       7,506       5,932  
Loan loss provision
          3             24  
 
                       
Net interest income
    2,608       1,823       7,506       5,908  
Gain on sale of mortgage assets
    209       121       834       4,287  
Gain (loss) on mark to market of mortgage assets
    2,525       (1,297 )     206       (1,663 )
(Loss) gain on freestanding derivatives
    (3,178 )     996       (1,857 )     (340 )
Due diligence fees
    2,661       3,678       7,690       9,374  
Technology
    532       845       2,420       2,360  
Loan brokering and advisory services
          202       105       1,050  
Reimbursed out-of-pocket expenses
    430       715       1,200       1,748  
Other income (loss)
    49       129       (38 )     320  
 
                       
Total revenues
    5,836       7,212       18,066       23,044  
 
                       
 
                               
Expenses
                               
Personnel
    1,879       1,875       5,968       7,691  
Subcontractors
    1,431       2,000       4,160       4,677  
Legal and professional
    674       675       2,210       2,237  
General and administrative
    343       423       1,168       1,250  
Depreciation and amortization
    208       326       598       932  
Occupancy
    215       151       558       422  
Technology
    260       398       992       1,208  
Travel and entertainment
    57       109       234       305  
Out-of-pocket expenses reimbursed
    430       715       1,200       1,748  
Other
    283       381       837       955  
 
                       
Total expenses
    5,780       7,053       17,925       21,425  
 
                       
Operating income
    56       159       141       1,619  
Equity in income (loss) of unconsolidated affiliates
    27       13       82       (187 )
Minority interest in loss of consolidated affiliate
          (26 )     (5 )     (40 )
 
                       
Income before income tax provision (benefit)
    83       198       228       1,472  
Income tax provision (benefit)
          62       (11 )     136  
 
                       
 
                               
Net Income
  $ 83     $ 136     $ 239     $ 1,336  
 
                       
Basic Earnings Per Share
  $ 0.01     $ 0.02     $ 0.03     $ 0.16  
 
                       
Diluted Earnings Per Share
  $ 0.01     $ 0.02     $ 0.03     $ 0.16  
 
                       
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HANOVER CAPITAL MORTGAGE HOLDINGS, INC.
SUMMARY INFORMATION FOR REIT PORTFOLIO ASSETS
(dollars in thousands)
(Unaudited)
                         
    Three Months Ended September 30, 2006  
    Mortgage Loans     Subordinate MBS     Agency MBS  
Average asset balance
  $ 11,749     $ 152,004     $ 114,202  
Average CMO borrowing balance
    9,009              
Average balance — Repurchase Agreements
    731       89,260       106,265  
 
                 
Net investment
  $ 2,009     $ 62,744     $ 7,937  
 
                 
 
                       
Average leverage ratio
    82.90 %     58.72 %     93.05 %
 
                 
 
                       
Effective interest income rate
    6.91 %     11.85 %     5.81 %
Effective interest expense rate — CMO borrowing
    7.10 %            
Effective interest expense rate — Repurchase Agreements
    7.11 %     6.65 %     5.46 %
 
                 
Net interest spread
    (0.19 )%     5.20 %     0.35 %
 
                 
 
                       
Interest income
  $ 203     $ 4,503     $ 1,660  
Interest expense — CMO borrowing
    160              
Interest expense — Repurchase Agreements
    13       1,485       1,451  
 
                 
Net interest income
  $ 30     $ 3,018     $ 209  
 
                 
 
                       
Yield
    5.97 %     19.24 %     10.53 %
 
                 
                         
    Three Months Ended September 30, 2005  
    Mortgage Loans     Subordinate MBS     Agency MBS  
Average asset balance
  $ 39,095     $ 76,211     $ 94,370  
Average CMO borrowing balance
    12,550              
Average balance — Repurchase Agreements
    17,165       46,557       90,738  
 
                 
Net investment
  $ 9,380     $ 29,654     $ 3,632  
 
                 
 
                       
Average leverage ratio
    76.01 %     61.09 %     96.15 %
 
                 
 
                       
Effective interest income rate
    5.71 %     10.96 %     5.02 %
Effective interest expense rate — CMO borrowing
    5.20 %            
Effective interest expense rate — Repurchase Agreements
    5.52 %     5.03 %     3.59 %
 
                 
Net interest spread
    0.32 %     5.93 %     1.43 %
 
                 
 
                       
Interest income
  $ 558     $ 2,088     $ 1,184  
Interest expense — CMO borrowing
    163              
Interest expense — Repurchase Agreements
    237       586       815  
 
                 
Net interest income
  $ 158     $ 1,502     $ 369  
 
                 
 
                       
Yield
    6.74 %     20.26 %     40.64 %
 
                 
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HANOVER CAPITAL MORTGAGE HOLDINGS, INC.
SUMMARY INFORMATION FOR REIT PORTFOLIO ASSETS
(dollars in thousands)
(Unaudited)
                         
    Nine Months Ended September 30, 2006  
    Mortgage Loans     Subordinate MBS     Agency MBS  
Average asset balance
  $ 16,571     $ 132,230     $ 81,457  
Average CMO borrowing balance
    9,937              
Average balance — Repurchase Agreements
    1,806       82,432       72,893  
 
                 
Net investment
  $ 4,828     $ 49,798     $ 8,564  
 
                 
 
                       
Average leverage ratio
    70.86 %     62.34 %     89.49 %
 
                 
 
                       
Effective interest income rate
    6.89 %     12.46 %     5.56 %
Effective interest expense rate — CMO borrowing
    6.48 %            
Effective interest expense rate — Repurchase Agreements
    6.72 %     6.30 %     5.12 %
 
                 
Net interest spread
    0.37 %     6.16 %     0.44 %
 
                 
 
                       
Interest income
  $ 857     $ 12,354     $ 3,396  
Interest expense — CMO borrowing
    483              
Interest expense — Repurchase Agreements
    91       3,893       2,797  
 
                 
Net interest income
  $ 283     $ 8,461     $ 599  
 
                 
 
                       
Yield
    7.82 %     22.65 %     9.33 %
 
                 
                         
    Nine Months Ended September 30, 2005  
    Mortgage Loans     Subordinate MBS     Agency MBS  
Average asset balance
  $ 38,769     $ 70,243     $ 100,596  
Average CMO borrowing balance
    25,005              
Average balance — Repurchase Agreements
    7,119       41,752       91,302  
 
                 
Net investment
  $ 6,645     $ 28,491     $ 9,294  
 
                 
 
                       
Average leverage ratio
    82.86 %     59.44 %     90.76 %
 
                 
 
                       
Effective interest income rate
    5.75 %     11.04 %     5.00 %
Effective interest expense rate — CMO borrowing
    5.58 %            
Effective interest expense rate — Repurchase Agreements
    5.36 %     4.56 %     3.07 %
 
                 
Net interest spread
    0.22 %     6.48 %     1.93 %
 
                 
 
                       
Interest income
  $ 1,673     $ 5,817     $ 3,776  
Interest expense — CMO borrowing
    1,046              
Interest expense — Repurchase Agreements
    286       1,428       2,103  
 
                 
Net interest income
  $ 341     $ 4,389     $ 1,673  
 
                 
 
                       
Yield
    6.84 %     20.54 %     24.00 %
 
                 
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EX-99.2 3 b63098hcexv99w2.htm EX-99.2 TRANSCRIPT OF NOVEMBER 10, 2006 EARNINGS CALL exv99w2
 

Exhibit 99.2
Transcript
             
HANOVER CAPITAL MORTGAGE
  HCM   Q3 Earnings Results Conference Call   Nov. 10, 2006
Hanover Capital Mortgage
Third Quarter 2006 Earnings Results
November 10, 2006
11:00 a.m. EST
Operator
Greetings ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Hanover Capital Mortgage third quarter 2006 earnings results conference call. [OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS] As a reminder this conference is being recorded.
It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mr. John Burchett, Chief Executive Officer, of Hanover Capital Mortgage. Thank you, Mr. Burchett. You may begin.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Thank you. And thank you everybody for joining our call this morning. I’m joined here in our office this morning by Irma Tavares, our Chief Operating Officer, and Harold McElraft, our Chief Financial Officer.
And before I start the formal call, I just want to remind everybody of our standard disclaimers about forward looking statements that are set forth both in today’s press release and in our 10K as filed yesterday— 10Q, I’m sorry, filed yesterday.
In terms of our quarter, clearly earnings were low, although positive, but were low, as a result of our continued transition, and I’ll talk more about that later, from a Company that had a lower portfolio and had operating subsidiaries, and our goal is to get a Company with a higher portfolio with the focus on our primary investment area of Subordinate Mortgage-Backed Bonds, and to reduce the impact of our subsidiary operations.
In terms of our portfolio, our portfolio remains in good shape. Our credit performance has been very good, actually above expectations in terms of the way we do our calculations for our interest on that portfolio. In that calculation we do have an embedded reserve in the way, again, in the way we calculate interest on that portfolio, our subordinate bond portfolio, and our results have been very good in comparison to the losses that are embedded in that calculation. So we’ve seen good performance in the portfolio.
As pointed out in our press release, the growth in that portfolio has been as expected from a year ago’s quarter. We were up 148% in the amount of money invested in that portfolio, and it is our goal, again, to keep growing that portfolio and drive our earnings with net interest income as opposed to the past, where our earnings were driven by gains in some areas and also by earnings from our subsidiaries.
The portfolio had a net equity yield of 19.24%, again as outlined in our press release, compared to 20.26% a year ago in the quarter, and we consider that a good performance, given that over that same period of time LIBOR, which is our principle financing arm for that portfolio went from 386 to 532. So as we’ve said before, the impact of rising interest rates do hurt us, but they don’t hurt us nearly as much as portfolios that are more highly leveraged, or that have less gross yield on the asset portion of the portfolio.
     
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  HCM   Q3 Earnings Results Conference Call   Nov. 10, 2006
From a credit point of view, nationally obviously there’s talk about the housing markets and about a slump in housing prices and starts. We still feel good about our portfolio. Our portfolio is made up of Subordinate Mortgage-Backed Bonds that are backed by mortgages that are prime mortgages, or really prime/prime mortgages with high credit scores or FICO scores, relatively low loan to value ratios, and in general, owner occupied properties and not investment properties. And we feel this segment of the market is— has shown to be safe recently and we expect as we go into the future that we won’t see any major problems in this market.
These markets are generally driven by the general economy. Employment is a key metric that we look at, and as you know, some recent economic reports, the employment sector has been— the employment numbers have been holding up very well. So our main portfolio, as I said again, is performing well. We’re doing well on the credit side. Our returns are good, and we continue to grow that portfolio.
Another indication of that is in terms of the comparative balance sheets, our cash at the end of the current quarter was $19.6 million, down from $30.4 million, as a comparable number in December of ‘05. So we continue to put investments in our portfolio.
Our— as I said, our main goals are to narrow our focus and get involved primarily in our investment portfolio at the REIT and as we have stated in the past, we’re looking at strategic alternatives for our subsidiaries. We have— in the past year, we’ve dramatically reduced the expense base of those subsidiaries and we’re currently looking at the operation of our due diligence subsidiary and hope to come to some conclusion in the near future on that issue.
The other main goal of our Company going forward is to grow our capital base and our first goal is to get our earnings on a run rate where the earnings make sense to our current capital size, and then to grow our capital base with the prime use of that new capital to go into our investment portfolio in Subordinated Mortgage-Backed Bonds. We know we can increase that portfolio dramatically in size with little or no increase in our expenses. We have the capacity to grow that portfolio, so we think that is a way to leverage our earnings using our skills and management of that portfolio to grow that portfolio.
Our dividend was set at $0.15 after we reviewed our plans for 2007 with our Board. Our Board settled on a $0.15 dividend, which we look at as our long term earnings rate of the Company given the current interest rate climate and given the current capital base of the Company. That could improve with lower interest rates on the short end and in terms of our longer range forecast, and obviously it could improve as we raise capital. But given our current capital and given our current— the current interest rate climate, which is a flat or inverted— actually it’s inverted as of today, yield curve, these are the numbers that we feel comfortable in dividend and projecting future earnings.
Just in terms of the inverted yield curve, historically they have not lasted much longer than we planned for in here, and we don’t think that’s going to be an inverted yield curve throughout all of 2007. So we would hope to come back to a more normal positively sloped yield curve, which, as I say, would lower short term interest rates, would help our portfolio. We do have caps in place to protect us against further increases in the short term rates, so if they— if the yield curve were to shift on a parallel basis up, we do have protection on the cap side, again, as outlined in our 10Q. The caps are laid out in there.
     
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So that— again just recapping, we had a good quarter as far as our portfolio is concerned. Our earnings weren’t where they— we’d like them to be and we are working to transition into getting the earnings to be the maximum they can with our current size, and we set our dividend to meet that expectation. At this point, I’ll open it up for questions.
Operator
Thank you. [OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS] Our first question comes from the line of David Taylor with David P. Taylor & Co.
<Q>: Thank you. John, I, as I was reading, I read the Q early this morning. There’s a $3.2 million loss on free standing derivatives.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Yes.
<Q>: Which is a fairly sizable number in relation to your capitalization, nearly $0.40 a share.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Yes.
<Q>: Could you put a little flush on that?
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Yes, let me go back and review where that comes from, and it is— we run a portfolio, if you look at our trading portfolio of agencies, we run a portfolio a little over $100 million, $107 million. Those are agency, Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac Securities. We hold that portfolio primarily to meet our requirements under the Investment Company Act of 1940, which requires us to have— requires us to have a certain percentage of our assets in whole pool loans or whole pool securities. So that’s a, I would call a regulatory portfolio that we hold.
We hold it on a fully hedged basis. So if we have— it’s not the exact numbers, but, for instance, if we had $100 million worth of Fannie Mae 5% Mortgage-Backed Securities, we at the same time would be short 100 million of Fannie Mae 5s in a forward market. And in the process of accounting for that portfolio, the gains and losses are shown in different positions on our balance sheet. So the bulk of the losses that you see under the gains and losses are actually losses under securities, but they are made up by, on the other side, by gains on the securities or net interest income on the portfolio that we own.
Our net on that portfolio was a little less than $0.01 per share negative, and that’s a little more negative than it usually is, but on average our net from an accounting point of view, balances out to zero or slightly positive on that portfolio. So those numbers are gross numbers that are netted out by the whole Fannie Mae position, which, as I say, has a slight impact on our portfolio.
Now, we’ve been trying to cure that problem. We have a credit line in place to buy whole loan mortgages that would eliminate the need for us to wholly—
     
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<Q>: The Merrill Lynch line?
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
The— well, the Merrill Lynch line no, that’s a different— that’s in line for a different position. The DZ line which we put in in the middle part of the year. The DZ line allows us to buy whole mortgage loans with a, what we consider very favorable financing arrangement and that— when we buy those loans, will take care of the agency position and we wouldn’t be holding agencies.
We haven’t bought any recently because of the negative slope yield curve. It just doesn’t work quite as well in terms of yield, so we’ve held off on buying that, but our intention to is to get out of that Fannie position, put whole loans in and put about 4 million in net capital that’s invested in the Fannie position, into a positively earning position. And that’s one of the things in our transition budget, if you will, for next year is to take that 4 million, which kind of breaks even and put into higher yielding assets and obviously—
<Q>: So I mean forgetting at the time, it’s going to happen when the yield curve reverts to a positive slope, am I correct?
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Yes, exactly.
<Q>: Okay.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
That’s what we expect. And we don’t think that’s going to be forever, as I said earlier.
<Q>: Yes, I was born on, and bred on financial theory and interest rate stuff, so I, I, I’m well aware the negatively sloped yield curve is unusual.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Yes, you can’t—
<Q>: Especially one that’s lasted as long as this one has.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
I agree. It can’t last forever and it should start turning around.
<Q>: Okay. In the Q, what you had mentioned, I think it was just shy of $1 million in REO. I was a little surprised by that.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
We, when we had—and we’ve, I think we’ve talked about this before, but when we bought the— when we had our division that was doing sub and nonperforming loans, HDMF, we actually bought some loans that were called rescission loans that we knew were going to go into REO and to sell the properties out from there. That’s the last piece that we did in that business. We’ve shut down that business of buying sub and
     
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nonperforming loans, again, as part of our simplify and focus mantra that we’ve got on in there. And that’s the remainder of that portfolio.
It’s been— we’re selling it off and it’s— we’ve been— as you can see, we’ve been taking some impairment losses over time, but we look at it, we actually look at it weekly and obviously when we report we look at the values on a quarterly basis and to the extent there’s marks needed, we mark them, but we’re in the process of selling that off and expect—
<Q>: And how much did that cost you in the quarter?
<A>: About $128,000.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
$128,000 in—
<A>: In impairment charges.
<Q>: $0.015, more or less?
<A>: Right.
<Q>: Okay. Sale of the subs.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Yes.
<Q>: When is the blessed event going to happen, John?
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
We’re working very hard on it, I can’t give you a date. We’re working hard on it. We are having conversations with people. We’ve got an advisor working on it, so we’re working on it and that’s all— we’ve got a goal of getting it done this year.
<Q>: Okay.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
But I can’t promise it will be done, but we’re trying our best to do that.
<Q>: Okay. Would it be fair to say that there’ll be some impairment to shareholders equity when the event occurs?
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
No, I don’t— we don’t know that at this point in time. We don’t have— we don’t know what the price will be, so it’s hard for us to say what the impact will be.
     
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<Q>: Okay. Thank you.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Janet DeRush with JMP Securities.
<Q>: Yes, good morning.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Good morning.
<Q>: Thanks so much for taking my call.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Sure.
<Q>: I have just a couple of questions for you, the first of which relates to just a general market question, in terms of what types of spreads are you currently seeing on unrated, B-rated, BB-rated and BBB-rated bonds?
And then my second question is if you could provide just a little bit more color on the collateral that underlies your Subordinated MBS.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Okay. Let me— that’s— give me just one second with that. The first question is covered in the BIC, under the BIC report. I’ll get to the second— the first question second and I’ll take the other question. In terms of our collateral underlying our portfolio, as I said before we consider it prime/prime. Our loan-to-value, average loan-to-value ratio on our total portfolio is less than 70%. Our FICO scores are north of 735. Our average loan balance is about $0.5 million, and as I said before, generally very low investor properties or second homes. It’s what we would consider prime first mortgage residential loans, very low on condos. It’s a very prime/prime, prime/prime portfolio.
<Q>: And the indices associated with these loans, are they like Alt A, MTA, hybrids?
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
They are not Alt A. We don’t do— we don’t have Alt A on our portfolio. These are prime loans, not Alt A. I’m sorry. What was the other question?
<Q>: Are any of these hybrids, or are they fixed ?
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
There’s a combination of fixed and hybrids. We have a mixture in our portfolio between hybrids and fixed, and the hybrids tend to be the longer term adjusters, five, seven, 10 years.
<Q>: Okay.
     
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John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
As far as the general yields are concerned, nonrateds are not so much quoted on a yield— on a spread basis, but on the yield basis, and on a nonloss adjusted basis, the nonrateds are probably in the area of 23% to 26% yields, depending on the particular piece of security. The B’s, the B’s are about 775 over the curve. BBs, at maybe 345, 350 over the curve. And that’s the bulk of our portfolio.
<Q>: Okay.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Anything else?
<Q>: No. Thank you very much.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Sure. Thank you.
<Q>: Okay. Bye-bye.
Operator:
[OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS] Our next question comes from the line of Raj Singhal, a private investor.
<Q>: Hi. Can you hear me?
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Yes, I can.
<Q>: Okay. Thanks for taking my call. My question is more of a general nature. I’m wondering, listening to your last couple of conference calls, I, my sense was that you are on a way to moving upward and forward in terms of both building your portfolio and also earnings and dividends record. So current quarter performance in terms of dividends and earnings performance was a bit of a surprise.
So my question is, can you say with any degree of conviction as to how much longer you think it will take before you can be on an upward and forward track as far as earnings and dividends growth is concerned?
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
As a general statement, I think we’ll be upward and forward, to use your terms, in the first and second quarter of next year. And our goal would be to have our transition completed by the end of the second quarter next year, so the second half of next year would be reflective of where the earnings power from this portfolio would come in.
So we do have a transition process in place. There are certain things that take longer than others, but that transition we expect will be the rest of this year, which is not much left of this year, and into the first half of next year.
     
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<Q>: So the next three quarters, is there a likelihood of experiencing bumps such as this one?
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Again, our projections would be generally upward, but as far as I can say, just in general terms, our projections it’ll be upward from this point out, but we don’t have any specific bumps in plan and in terms of— as long as markets are where they are or where we expect they’ll be, we don’t expect anything.
<Q>: All right. Thank you very much.
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Sure. Thank you.
Operator
[OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS] Mr. Burchett, I’m showing no questions in the queue at this time. Do you have any closing remarks?
John Burchett — Hanover Capital Mortgage Holdings — Chief Executive Officer
Yes. Just like to thank everybody for joining in our call. And once again, we will continue to work on our plan and our progress to get our Company simplified, and growing in terms of our portfolio and its results. Thanks again for joining us.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today’s teleconference.
     
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