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ACCESSION NUMBER:		0001094891-04-000259
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	3
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20041029
FILED AS OF DATE:		20041104
DATE AS OF CHANGE:		20041104

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			LADENBURG THALMANN FINANCIAL SERVICES INC
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001029730
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	SECURITY & COMMODITY BROKERS, DEALERS, EXCHANGES & SERVICES [6200]
		IRS NUMBER:				650701248
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			FL
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		590 MADISON AVENUE 34TH FLOOR
		CITY:			NEW YORK
		STATE:			NY
		ZIP:			10022
		BUSINESS PHONE:		5164701000

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		590 MADISON AVENUE 34TH FLOOR
		CITY:			NEW YORK
		STATE:			NY
		ZIP:			10022

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	GBI CAPITAL MANAGEMENT CORP
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19990826

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	FROST HANNA CAPITAL GROUP INC
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19961227

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			ROSEN STEVEN A
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001094249

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		3
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	001-15799
		FILM NUMBER:		041120482

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		C/O UNIQUE DENTAL CARE
		STREET 2:		16-26 BELL BLVD
		CITY:			BAYSIDE
		STATE:			NY
		ZIP:			11360
		BUSINESS PHONE:		7184231210

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		C/O UNIQUE DENTAL CARE
		STREET 2:		16-26 BELL BLVD
		CITY:			BAYSIDE
		STATE:			NY
		ZIP:			11360
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    <schemaVersion>X0202</schemaVersion>

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    <periodOfReport>2004-10-29</periodOfReport>

    <noSecuritiesOwned>1</noSecuritiesOwned>

    <issuer>
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        <issuerName>LADENBURG THALMANN FINANCIAL SERVICES INC</issuerName>
        <issuerTradingSymbol>LTS</issuerTradingSymbol>
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        <reportingOwnerId>
            <rptOwnerCik>0001094249</rptOwnerCik>
            <rptOwnerName>ROSEN STEVEN A</rptOwnerName>
        </reportingOwnerId>
        <reportingOwnerAddress>
            <rptOwnerStreet1>C/O UNIQUE DENTAL CARE</rptOwnerStreet1>
            <rptOwnerStreet2>16-26 BELL BLVD.</rptOwnerStreet2>
            <rptOwnerCity>BAYSIDE</rptOwnerCity>
            <rptOwnerState>NY</rptOwnerState>
            <rptOwnerZipCode>11360</rptOwnerZipCode>
            <rptOwnerStateDescription></rptOwnerStateDescription>
        </reportingOwnerAddress>
        <reportingOwnerRelationship>
            <isDirector>1</isDirector>
            <isOfficer>0</isOfficer>
            <isTenPercentOwner>0</isTenPercentOwner>
            <isOther>0</isOther>
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    </reportingOwner>

    <footnotes></footnotes>

    <remarks></remarks>

    <ownerSignature>
        <signatureName>/s/ Steven A. Rosen</signatureName>
        <signatureDate>2004-11-04</signatureDate>
    </ownerSignature>
</ownershipDocument>

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