Pensions And Other Postretirement Benefits (Schedule Of Periodic Benefit Cost) (Details) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified	3 Months Ended
	Jan. 27, 2012	Jan. 28, 2011
Pension Benefits [Member]
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Service cost	$ 1,052	$ 1,106
Interest cost	3,525	3,648
Expected return on plan assets	(4,843)	(4,384)
Amortization of prior service cost	109	99
Recognized actuarial (gain)/loss	1,716	1,510
Net Periodic Benefit Cost	1,559	1,979
Post-Retirement Medical Benefits [Member]
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Service cost	31	47
Interest cost	112	128
Amortization of prior service cost	(32)	(32)
Recognized actuarial (gain)/loss	118	76
Net Periodic Benefit Cost	$ 229	$ 219