Pensions And Other Postretirement Benefits (Schedule Of Periodic Benefit Cost) (Details) - USD ($) $ in Thousands	3 Months Ended
	Jan. 29, 2016	Jan. 30, 2015
Pension Benefits
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Service cost	$ 683	$ 1,253
Interest cost	3,309	3,588
Expected return on plan assets	(4,878)	(4,952)
Amortization of prior service cost	112	113
Recognized actuarial loss	1,642	1,672
Net Periodic Benefit Cost	868	1,674
Curtailment gain	0	(3,083)
Net Total Periodic Benefit (Gain)/Cost	868	(1,409)
Post-Retirement Medical Benefits
Defined Benefit Plan Disclosure [Line Items]
Service cost	72	51
Interest cost	90	92
Amortization of prior service cost	(32)	(32)
Recognized actuarial loss	96	108
Net Periodic Benefit Cost	$ 226	$ 219